to that solution, that idea, you could -- you would find that we could work out the debt ceiling. we could put all this drama and theater aside. but anyone who thinks we don't ever need to balance our budget, i think has disqualified themselves from a discussion here. >> we will certainly continue that discussion even though we didn't talk about it that much this morning, moving forward. i think you and i certainly on that issue probably agree much on just about everything. thank you so much, jim demint. we greatly appreciate you being here. >> thanks, joe. >> i've got to say, tom, it is fascinating to me, disturbing, but fascinating how it's hard to find a senator that says, you know what? i love my job. i feel like i'm really accomplishing something. i get such depressing reports from inside the senate. and i know you do, too. >> i do. almost every senator i talk to just is enormously frustrated. a lot of them like demint are leaving. olympia snowe left because she felt she couldn't get anything done. she'll be replaced by angus king, an independent from maine. when she was leaving i thought to
